The GUS Daily Digest Tuesday, 9 May 1995 Volume 22 : Number 007 Today's Topics: Fast Tracker 2 FW: Latest drivers etc Gus FAQ-s. Mega-em 3.03b Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #4 GUS and SCSI vs EIDE CDROM's DOPE, Flight and other demo questions dolbythx.wav GUS Server was down 16-bit in DOS?? No way.. Re: 16-bit in DOS?? No way.. [none] MIDI FTP Re: No Cursor ..... Non-Native support for Terminal Velocity Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marty Danko -Khertz- Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 17:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fast Tracker 2 Gus people, FT2 (fast tracker 2) is by far the c00lest tracker around! except... it seems when evere the insturments fade away there is a slight clicking sound for every increment level it goes down by! Whats up? Is there a way to fix this? I have a gusmax (1mb) 486dx266 8mbram ultrasnd=220,5,7,5,7. I have tried different bus speeds and everthing please help! Thanks in advance, Marty mdanko@dhs.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------ From: Chris James Date: Mon, 08 May 1995 12:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FW: Latest drivers etc ---------- From: Chris James To: gus-general-owner Subject: Latest drivers etc Date: Monday, May 08, 1995 12:06PM A quicky, do V3.59 driver disk files contain the new Protected mode Megaem and MAXSBOS that I've been hearing about, or are they in Beta stage (or non-existent)? I did look in the FAQ but that doesn't look terribly up to date {:>). Chris James ------------------------------ From: charles.galos@canrem.com (Charles Galos) Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 01:46:00 -0400 Subject: Gus FAQ-s. Hi you all. Reading "Hints" in the end of every daily digest about FAQ-s. I can't get any newer then three yers olds. I Sendt a list of ten Q-s about the ALTERNATIVE BANKS to GRAVIS. The tech peron is preparing a new. Wher should I look for that? Cgalos ------------------------------ From: ekoh4@vax7.curtin.EDU.AU Date: Sat, 06 May 1995 23:09:57 +0800 Subject: Mega-em 3.03b hey ppl! I thought u might want to know this. U know how megaem 3.03b is not supposed to have sb emulation(i.e. digitized sound) well, I ran it with games like systemshock and warcraft and it worked!!!!! both gm music and sb for sound. Amazing huh? 8-) ok now I'll start whining: hey Jay! could u please up the sb emulation so its at least in stereo? (its not stereo now right?) Also is it possible to redo the GM patches? I have a Kprg X3 synth sitting new to me. How hard is it for me to sample the gm sounds from it and replace the gus max ones? hmm...does the gus max do chorus and reverb well? like the korg has a richer sound than the gus... ok I'll stop it now. Anyway, thanks Jay and all u ppl who have stuck to the Gus. Maybe one day, it will get better support. nite 'drew ------------------------------ From: Yossi Oren Date: Sat, 06 May 95 20:00:31 +0300 Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #4 You want sampling and looping? Then get Cool Edit 1.31, which is a Windows app, from ftp.cica.indiana.edu (somewhere under pub/pc/win3/sounds). You can do stretching, if that's what you meant at "right length" and loop forever. Also check out the brainwave syncing function - it's like that mastermind thing. As to putting the GUSRAM on the motherboard - it's possible, but think bus. If you want the GUS to use main memory, it means somebody has to move the sound data along the ISA (or PCI, if a PCI Ultrasound ever comes out). The GUS needs to get data for every patch it plays (say 16), 44K times a second. I don't know the figures, but it wouldn't be easy, and it would PROBABLY tax your bus like hell - CDROM and HD performance would suffer. For this exact reason video RAM is also local - moving a meg of image data, 60 times a second, would cause some trouble. Yossi. PS My side on the Warp debate - nobody gives a fuck. As we programmers say, we have a HARDWARE issue here. lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il / The people are with the Golan Heights. Currently serving somewhere in / Politically correct my ass. the Israeli Defense Forces. / Gravis Ultrasound - you'd better buy one - --------( "ObKibo" )--------- or I'll hit you (like my slogan?). >From gus-general-owner Mon May 8 12:41:15 1995 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mail.nws.orst.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) id MAA03017; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:41:15 -0700 Received: from gaia.ucs.orst.edu (root@gaia.UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.2]) by mail.nws.orst.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA02937 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:40:55 -0700 Received: from mercury.sfsu.edu (mercury.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.162]) by gaia.ucs.orst.edu (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA01921 for ; Sat, 6 May 1995 19:06:45 -0700 Received: from orion. (orion.sfsu.edu) by mercury.sfsu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA05476; Sat, 6 May 1995 19:06:07 -0700 Received: by orion. (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23354; Sat, 6 May 1995 19:06:06 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 19:06:05 -0700 (PDT) From: George X-Sender: gmontem@orion To: gus-general@gaia.ucs.orst.edu Subject: Thought of making sounds more 'fuller' In-Reply-To: <199505042315.QAA22617@mail.nws.orst.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1015 Sender: owner-gus-general@gaia.ucs.orst.edu Precedence: bulk I had this idea that may or not work that might make the ouput from a GUS or from any sound card sound fuller. The idea came into mind when I was thinking of ways to make the sound more 'fuller' of a midi file by doubling the channel and repanning it. Here's the idea: Split the output from the GUS's prefered line-out jack into two sets of Left and Right signals (if possible). The first set plugs into your speakers. THe second set is weakened, so the sound is quietter than the unaltered signal. This one is then plugged to your speaker, assuming your speakers has two stereo line-in jacks, but this time, have the Left-panned sound coming from the Right speaker and the Right-panned sound coming from the Left speaker. Anyone know if this will work? I haven't tried it yet since I do not know if it may screw something up, ie. signal coming out of the GUS's line-out is two weak because it is being splitted into two routes, so use caution when you want to try this idea of mine. - -George ------------------------------ From: davidb@cats.ucsc.edu (David Barnett) Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:39:00 -0800 Subject: GUS and SCSI vs EIDE CDROM's Hello Gussers, I want to add a CD-ROM drive to my system this weekend. I'm currently planning to get a SCSI device and add it to my existing SCSI bus, but I got to thinking that it might be a good idea to ask: Are there any issues with using a SCSI CD-ROM in conjunction with my GUS that would make it preferable to consider an EIDE type CD-ROM instead? I guess I'm thinking of drivers, game support, what have you. My (ASUS PCI/TP54T?) motherboard has EIDE and (PCI)SCSI interfaces already, so I'm equipped to do either, although I'd prefer SCSI if that's not a problem. I'm running both Linux and Windoze, but believe my concern is more directed toward applications running in DOS/Windoze. I'm unfamiliar with how ATAPI fits into the picture, and if it works with SCSI as well and as often as IDE. I've checked the gus FAQ and didn't see any related material. If any of you out there could offer me some insight on this matter, I'd appreciate it. Thanks a lot! Dave Barnett davidb@cats.ucsc.edu ------------------------------ From: ross@math.hawaii.edu Date: Fri, 5 May 95 13:26:11 HST Subject: DOPE, Flight and other demo questions Matt@machine.demon.co.uk (Matt Robinson) wrote: >I just got "Dope" and it is C00L!!! Brill, great etc. Very good looking. I agree, though my 6-month-old son likes Kosmik's FLIGHT (also from NAID) better. A GUS question: on both of these demos, but especially on Flight, the sound is a little tinny, as though dynamically clipped. Anyone else experienced this? On a related subject, I've never been able to get sound working with Inconexia, even with the GUS patch; I've tried a variety of configs and IRQs. Any pointers? - - David R. ------------------------------ From: liaor@umcc.umich.edu (Royce Liao) Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 21:17:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: dolbythx.wav I was looking through the ultrasound archive at epas (/pub/pc/ultrasound/sound/wav/files/) and I noticed in the index file "dolbythx.zip" Where can I get this file? It doesn't seem to be epas! ------------------------------ From: Vince - IE - Experimental Mail Server Admin Acct Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 15:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: GUS Server was down Hi everyone, Sorry everyone but the server for the GUS Lists was down for the entire weekend so that is why nothing was sent out... 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USS doesn't seem to record 16-bit, or just not correctly that is. ------------------------------ From: Cuthalion / Sliced Bread Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 18:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: 16-bit in DOS?? No way.. On Mon, 8 May 1995, Andrew Du wrote: > Hey... I gotta question. > > Does a program to record 16-bit .WAVs in DOS exist? If so, where?? > I've asked and looked around but nothing came up. USS doesn't seem to > record 16-bit, or just not correctly that is. Can't PlayFile do it? ------------------------------ From: Gunnar Swanson Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 22:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ From: Ted Ching Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 19:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: MIDI FTP Can someome give some FTP sites where I can get General MIDI files? Or better yet, the FTP address for Roland Corp? ------------------------------ From: bigdave@cse.unsw.edu.au (David Khoury) Date: Tue, 9 May 95 13:11:24 +1000 Subject: Re: No Cursor ..... >Date: Fri, 5 May 95 16:53:56 CDT >Subject: No Cursor when Windows comes up first time. > >I upgraded my GUS software to 357 and now see a problem that I haven't >seen in a long time, that is, no Cursor when Windows comes up first >time. If I exit windows and reenter, everything's fine. I'm sure >I've seen this question asked before but couldn't find the answer in >the FAQ or in any recent digests. > >- -- Tom Yep, I had the same problem except that I don't exit windows and restart to get the cursor back.... All I do is hit the numlock key and the mouse buttons a few times together to bring the cursor back. The problem of the cursor in windows disapearing is now reduced to a minor irritation. This definitely wouldn't happen in a REAL operating system... but lets face it, Windows has the applications so we must put up with these little eccentricities. David. ------------------------------ From: Aaron Cameron Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 01:07:17 -0230 Subject: Non-Native support for Terminal Velocity Is it just me, or does anybody else find it a little strange that TV does NOT support the GUS natively? The gus is the undisputed best card for playing tracker music, and TV uses tracker music. Do we get stunning 16bit stereo 32 channel playback through the GUS? No, we get shitty 8bit mono 2 channel playback through soundBastard emulation. My computer locks up after about 2 minutes of play to boot. This is not good. Are we to assume that the GUS is becomming unsupported? Or are we to assume that 3dRealms, an offshoot of Apogee (who have supported the gus for a while now, although not well), are too damn lazy or plain incompetant to code native GUS support. One would THINK that they'd show off their great tracker style soundtrack by supporting the card that does tracker best... but alas, they expect us to hear their music through emulation of the soundcard that does tracker music the worst: generic 8 bit soundBastard! Not only that, but sbos takes up a lot of system resources to boot (try playing a mod through ModPlay v2.19b using sbos... you'd be lucky to get a mixing rate of over 1000kHz with a fast 486dx!). Does anybody know wheather or not 3dRealms intends to release a patch or a new version which will add/contain native support for the GUS? If not, let's hassle the shit outta them untill they do! 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